Thursday, February 09, 2012 

Religion and politics mix?

Interesting article in Al Jazeera today from Robert Jensen.
But a blanket claim that "religion and politics don't mix" misunderstands the inevitable connection between the two. Whether secular or religious, our political judgments are always rooted in first principles - claims about what it means to be human that can't be reduced to evidence and logic. Should people act purely out of self-interest, or is solidarity with others just as important? Do we owe loyalty to a nation-state? Under what conditions, if any, is the taking of a human life justified? What is the appropriate relationship of human beings to the larger living world?
These basic moral/spiritual questions underlie everyone's politics, and our answers are shaped by the philosophical and/or theological systems in which we find inspiration and insight. Since everyone's political positions reflect their foundational commitments, it doesn't seem fair to say that those grounded in a secular philosophy can draw on their traditions, but people whose political outlooks are rooted in religion have to mute themselves.
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Wednesday, February 08, 2012 

Quote of the day

If you make disciples, you get a church.  If you make a church, you don't always get disciples.
 From: Building a Discipling Culture by Mike Breen

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Friday, February 03, 2012 

UK decides God no longer heals

An interesting article from the BBC this morning.  It seems like churches can no longer claim that God still heals in the UK.

The ASA said the leaflet read: "Need Healing? God can heal today! Do you suffer from Back Pain, Arthritis, MS, Addiction ... Ulcers, Depression, Allergies, Fibromyalgia, Asthma, Paralysis, Crippling Disease, Phobias, Sleeping disorders or any other sickness?
"We'd love to pray for your healing right now!
"We're Christian from churches in Bath and we pray in the name of Jesus. We believe that God loves you and can heal you from any sickness."
The ASA said it had been alerted to the adverts by a complainant, and concluded that they could encourage false hope and were irresponsible.
HOTS Bath said: "It seems very odd to us that the ASA wants to prevent us from stating on our website the basic Christian belief that God can heal illness.
HOTS Bath stands for Healing on the Streets, which is a ministry that started out of a Vineyard in the UK.  They gather in town centers, set up a some of chairs, and offer free prayer.  The ministry has since spread to many different churches throughout the UK (and the world).

It seems strange to me (as an American) that the government would want to get into a religious battle.  They don't say God will heal, they say he can heal.  But I guess that is too "irresponsible" for the local authorities so they censored the group.  I wish that we were that irresponsible here.

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Thursday, February 02, 2012 

Quote of the day

But there is a secret here, too:  getting lost is not fatal.  Almost every time, it will make your world bigger.   You can look at the edges of your map, the places you were unsure about.  Old explorers even had a phrase for it: "Here be dragons."

From: The Flinch by Julien Smith

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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 

Church Planting

Earlier this month, Andrew Jones posted an interesting article on church planting entitled 9 reasons NOT to plant a church in 2012.  With a title like that, one can only imagine what kinda of response he would get (and did he get one!)  The majority of the bloggers that I read seemed to deal only with the title and not what he was actually saying.  They went something like this: "Andrew Jones says don't plant, he must be against the Great Commission, he must not like me (or my movement), I need to show him the error of his ways and justify my existence!"  But what struck me in the article was not a rejection of church planting, but instead a challenge to the way we look at the Great Commission.

Being a Vineyard guy, I know the church planting argument by heart.  "The best way to get people saved is to plant new churches!"  When we think of Matthew 28, we think church planting.  We are (were?) a church planting movement for goodness sake.  I remember when I first came to the Vineyard, once I learned about healing the next step was to go and plant a church!  I've based my entire life and my family's well being on this belief.  And now, nine years after being sent out to actually plant a church, I'm wondering if I got it wrong.

Now, before you start yelling at me and thinking that I fell off the wagon, just hear me out for a minute.  I love the church.  I love all the different forms and traditions of the church.  But I'm starting to wonder if we've lost some focus on what church was supposed to be (when I say church in this context, I'm meaning the local, organized, expression of the church, not the people of the church or the church universal.)  Here is what I mean.  When we start talking about "church", we in the west begin to place certain metrics around it to determine if it is successfully being the church.  How big is it?  What programs is it offering?  What does the worship team look like?  How good is the preacher?  Is the Sunday event cool?  Is it self-sustainable (that is a big one these days, especially when we westerner's plant churches in other cultures).  Be honest here - this is how we determine if it is successful.  So the bigger the church, the more programs for the people, the bigger budget and staff, the hipper the worship, the more charismatic the preacher, the better the church.  Here is what is curious.  These are the same metrics that we use when evaluating a successful business.  But are they the same metrics that Jesus' used when he gave us the Great Commission?

A quick read of Matthew 28:18-20 may cause us to pause for a moment. 
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." 
So what is the metric?  You could make an argument that it is about the numbers, but it is not just numbers - it is about disciples.  Are we actually making disciples?  

Our goal should be disciples, not churches.  The church is an effective tool for disciple making, but it is not the end result (Jesus did not say "Therefore, go and plant churches...").  If we are making disciples, then we are all working together in this.  If we are growing churches, then it's my church verses your church.  And it is in that spirit of competition that we tend to find ourselves here in the US.

In the nine years that I have pastored my church, we have had two large video venues plant in our area.  Both of these churches are pastored by wonderful, God fearing people.  And I know that God is using them to advance his Kingdom here in DeKalb county.  But what was interesting to me is the way that they marketed themselves when they got here.  They newest one put signs all around our town that said this: 
Join us for dynamic children's ministry, awesome music, real-to-life messages, and authentic relationships.  Beginning January 15th, experience a different kind of church.
So who is this being written to?  I know that they want the un-churched, but the language is speaking directly to the churched.  Does your church's children ministry suck?  Tired of the organ? Pastor boring?  The people of your church just don't accept who you really are?  Then try us!  Experience church the way it was meant to be (aka - not at the church you currently attend)! 

The problem is that it is not just those "big churches" that are doing it.  We are all doing it.  Another church's success means my failure (be honest guys).  This mentality works great for selling burgers.  But we are not selling burgers, we are representing the Creator of the universe.  Jesus is not a Big Mac!

So back to the article.  If Jesus said make disciples and they are to obey what Jesus taught, what would that look like?  I think it would look like a movement.  If we actually did what Jesus commanded us to do we would be loving our neighbor, taking care of the poor, healing the sick, and making more disciples - being the church instead of playing church.  Instead, we get saved and find our place in the safety of the sheep pen.  We don't bring transformation into a community, instead we hide away in the safety of a Christian ghetto.  I think what Andrew was trying to say was forget the institution of church and start being the church.  If we just be the church, churches will get planted (we are called to come together for worship, teaching and the Lord's Supper).  But the institution of the church isn't the end all.  It is simply a tool that Jesus gave us to help fulfill His mission here on earth.

I know this may get me in trouble with some (especially in my tribe), but be patient with me.  I really think there is something here that God wants to work through.  I'll try to flesh some of this out some more over the next few days and weeks.

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Monday, January 30, 2012 

Google

I'm thinking about moving this blog off blogger.  Many of folks that I know have moved to WordPress - I've talked to Cindy and she likes it better then her old blogger account.  It just seems like it will be such a hassle to get things moved over there.

This really wasn't on my radar, but Google's new privacy policies have me concerned.  I know it is probably much to do about nothing, but I really don't like being indexed (yes, I know, every one is doing it, but that doesn't mean that I have to like it.) So, I'm slowing migrating from Google. (For what it's worth, I think blogger has gone downhill since Google took it over.)

What this is bringing up in me again is my frustrations regarding my browser's homepage.  A few years ago, I made my browser's homepage the BBC.  It was wonderful.  I was able to customize it and I could get everything I wanted.  You see, I'm a news junkie.  But I want news from an international perspective.  I have friends all over the world and I want to know what is going on in their neck of the woods.  The customizable BBC page was wonderful (and I could get soccer news as well - bonus!)  But then they took the clock away (you BBC users know what I'm talking about) - but it was still good.  Then they took all the customization's away.  Now you get news geared to where you live which is probably what most folks want, but it's not what I want.  I know I can dig into the BBC to find more, but I'm lazy - I want headlines.  I want to be able to browse the headlines quickly, then click in to read things that I'm interested in.  I don't want to spend time searching for stuff.

Sometime in 2011, I bit the bullet and left the BBC to (you guessed it) GoogleNews.  I could customize.  I could get what I want.  It seems like a good fit (although Google's interface drives me crazy).  That brings us back to indexing.  They want to give you the news (and ads) that they think you will be interested it (based on your browser history and other information that they get).  I don't want that.  I want to discover things that I didn't know I was interested in.  I know that in theory the algorithm is supposed to know what I want better then I do, but I have noticed over the past several weeks that my GoogleNews page seems to be in a rut.  I can't explain it, it just feels like something is missing.

I've spent the past few days figuring out what to do.  I've looked at CNN, WN.com, and even my old Yahoo page.  None of them really float my boat.  I just want my old BBC clock back.  Is that really too much to ask for?

Thursday, December 01, 2011 

On the side...

Some interesting stuff....


Skye Jethani over at Out of Ur asks the question "Did youth ministry create the emerging church?"  He quotes Tony Jones telling a group of evangelical professors: "You all have strong feelings about the emerging church movement, most of them negative.  Well, you are directly responsible for the emerging church movement."  Zing!  Jethani goes on saying:
The problem is a result, at least in part, of what Kara Powell calls the “Kitchen Table Syndrome” that marks many evangelical churches. This is how she describes the isolation and separation of youth from the adults in the community--much like the way kids get their own table at Thanksgiving. It’s a “separate but equal” vision of ministry. The intent is to provide age-appropriate teaching, which is certainly good. But the unintended result is the formation of youth ministries that do not carry the values and traditions of the wider church.In addition, by isolating students they are less likely to form meaningful relationships with older adults in the congregation–relationships that would provide continuity within the church from one generation to the next. Without this continuity we shouldn’t be surprised when 25-year-olds emerge who want nothing more than to deconstruct the way the church operates, slash the authority hierarchy, or just leave the church altogether. To use Jones’ logic, it was the youth groups of the 80s that created the Emerging Church of the late 90s, which sought to deconstruct the church systems of the 80s.
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Tim Stafford tells a story of a conversation that he had with the sister of a well-known Christian leader who had left the church and how it has negativity affected her relationship with him.
As the sister said, “He has always been totally enamored with miracles, and with the gifts of the spirit, as though that was the proof of the faith. I’m not impressed with gifts of the spirit, but I would be with fruit of the spirit. Just listen to me. That would be love. That would be the presence of God. That would show me that God is at work in your life.”
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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 

What makes a church?

Last winter our landlord came to us and informed us that he had someone interested in our building that could actually pay the rent.  For as much as I would love to vilify him for putting out a church, we really couldn't afford the building.  We hadn't been able to pay our rent in quite sometime and the cost of our utilities was killing us.  Our landlord had showed us grace for a long time, but business is business and I couldn't fault him for asking us to leave.  So we began to pack and I searched for a new "temporary" location.

Thirty days later we found ourselves in a park district gymnasium.  The rent was cheap and we could store our stuff there.  It was a perfect solution until summer when we discovered that there was no air conditioning!  I remember someone asking me what I needed to focus on once we moved.  They were expecting me to talk about outreach or growing the church or something like that.  But instead I responded that I needed to figure out how to do church in our new surroundings.  They gave me a funny look and asked what's the big deal, nothing changed.  But in reality, everything had changed.

You see, we had a way of doing church.  We used our building for everything.  There were things that we did on Sunday Morning that we were not able to do in the new facility.  We used the internet a lot in our old building.  We wouldn't have it here.  We set up permanent stuff for the kids.  Not an option here.  We served refreshments.  Not easy here.  We did potlucks.  No can do here.  Then the issues with the rest of the week.  Where would the food pantry go?  Where would we put on the classes and programs that we did?  Where could the youth meet?  Where would my office be?  You see, our facility was integral to all that we did.  And all that we did was what was expected by all the people who came to the church and those who would be visiting.  There is a video that North Park Church in Atlanta put out last year that made fun of what their Sunday Morning service had become.  It showed (in a very funny way) that everything was programmed for effect.  The sad part about it was how true it was, not just for them but for us.  The terrifying discovery that I made was that everything that we did was someway dependent on the building that we no longer had.  So how would we do church in the future?

The key word in that question was "would".  We would do church, there was no doubt in my mind.  But it needed to look different.  It needed to be simpler, more organic and fluid, and use less resources.  But how?  That is what kept me up at night.  What exactly makes a church?  What does it look like?  What is important and what is fluff?  These questions as not as simple as one might think.  And the answers to these questions took me on a journey that stretched my understanding of church and brought me back to where I was when I first said "yes" to church planting.  So while I would have loved to focus on outreach I knew that outreach wouldn't happen unless the church changed.  I needed to figure out how to do church again.

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Bethlehemain Rhapsody


From whyismarko

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Tuesday, November 29, 2011 

Mike Breen on the corporate church

Interesting thoughts from Mike Breen.....


You see, I am absolutely convinced that 100 years from now, many books will be written on the phenomenon that is the late 20th Century/early 21st Century American church. And I am fairly certain that it will be with large degree of amazement/laughter that people, in reading about it, will say to each other: “You must be joking! Seriously???! People actually thought it was a good idea to structure the Church as if it were a business? Honestly?!”

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